they are in d to us as americans. -- they are inmates to us as americans. there are far better ways to commemorate 9/11. it represents -- d another act of religious radicalism. >> -- i guess the point -- again, i'm having a hard time -- >> excuse me. i'm having a hard time understanding, first of all, why the state department is getting involved in an issue that relates directly to a florida church. >> well, first of all, i was asked. >> well, ok. fair enough. but you made the -- but then you made the observation that what they planned to do is un- american. and i -- >> i think -- there's -- there are a balance -- >> are you prepared to say the same thing if someone wants to -- >> look, there are a balance of interests here. but this, in our view, has the potential to inflame public opinion around the world in a way that will jeopardize americanives and american interests. it does not represenour core values as americans. we hope it does not happen. we hope that between now and saturday, there'll be a range of voices across america that make clear to this c